Post-migrant voices at times of hyper-visibility 143 5.1.5 Bullying culture: “White people, stay out of this conversation!” (20.10.2020) This episode, with the title “Can black people be racists against Asian people?”, continues above mentioned contribu- tion and departs from a video circulating on social media where black kids make fun of East Asians. As usual, guests are invited: Two of them have Asian roots and one African, and they work as journalists and writers, as well as run their own podcasts. The discussion centers around the roots of anti-Asian racism among black people, forms of expressions and the boundary between racist and funny jokes. It starts with a moral assumption, that Black people should know better because they are exposed to racism and know what it means to be hurt. “We should all be on one side. But there is no solidarity-based thinking”. Instead, they notice, white racism is appropriated and brutally practiced by black people. The simple understanding of victims and perpetrators does not work in this case, they highlight. There are several examples given from pop culture of, e.g., the fetishization of Asian women, who are treated in a stereotypical and sexist way which is also associated with sex tourism and brothels. Especially during coronavirus pandemic, everyday racism against Asian people increased, and as one of the guests has witnessed: “The harm is different if it comes from someone who should actually know better” regarding what it means to be attacked. The participants agree that there is, on the one hand, no structural racism in this case, but, on the other hand, a practice where “Black people act as white people”. Here, all agree that “the white majority society is to blame” because it “is the engine that makes everything work”. Or, in other words, the racism of black people against Asians is the “extended arm of Western society” is argued. The black people are not better than their society, and with that, they question their initial assumption of whether marginalized people should have a differ- ent moral standard. However, all participants agree, they do not “have a free pass” and racist attitudes cannot be tolerated at all. At the end, the participants give advice to the audi- ence regarding how to behave and avoid racism, even if it is not
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